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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=162:14:31&ch=20

Retro Chuck Deiterich tells Flight Director Glynn Lunney, apparently out of the blue: "Flight, I once got a ticket for doing that at a police boat out on Lake Houston, so you don't bother me!" The room explodes in laughter.

Anyone have any guesses??

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=166:33:33&ch=20

Also: https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=167:18:34&ch=20

With the Flintlock closed, everyone is wondering where the good splashdown parties are going to be, and for some reason they think FIDO Jay Greene might know. But he hasn't heard any inside information: all he knows is that there's a sign on the Nassau Bay Hotel across the street for 5pm.

It sounds like that's where they ended up, if you read the oral histories. It also sounds like they had a bit too much fun.

Thomas Sanzone: "The Nassau Bay Resort Motor Inn—a hotel on NASA Road 1—actually had an NBC news studio on the very top floor, so they could shoot across [the street] to show the Manned Spacecraft Center. I remember that the grand piano at the Nassau Bay Resort Motor Inn ended up in the swimming pool on the night of Apollo 11."

Jay Greene: "Apollo 11 was the big blowout with the fabled piano in the swimming pool. I wouldn’t know. I think I passed out before we got that far."

And you can find a picture of the place here: https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/bayarea/news/article/Nassau-Bay-NASA-vintage-photos-50th-anniversary-15085883.php

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General Discussion / Apollo 11 Guidance loop very low
« on: July 21, 2020, 07:48:31 am »
Having followed through the lunar descent shift on the FIDO loop, I'm now trying to do the same with Guidance, but it seems like the audio on that loop is often a lot lower than on other loops. It's not inaudible but it's difficult to listen to.

I'm not certain if this was an issue with the recording or the digitisation or with Apollo in Real Time itself, but thought I'd flag up in case there was any fix?

A couple of random examples:
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=096:18:08&ch=21
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=096:38:40&ch=21

In the mean time I'll carry on doing my best to follow the various debates between Steve Bales and Jack Garman. :)

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=102:03:02&ch=21

AGC (Jack Garman): Yaw, AGC. They're gonna lock you in?
Yaw: In. Everyone else out.
AGC: Pretty good.
Someone else: Is that the way you want it?
Yaw: I don't know that I have any choice.

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=062:31:15&ch=21

Apparently at the time of Apollo 11, the bunkroom had room for about 24 people, and in this recording MIT are negotiating hard for a couple of beds for their people. Guidance officer Ken Russell explains: "There was a big thing... they had more people than they had room for, apparently.... Steve [Bales] and I are on call all the time and we have one bunk, one allocation."

Discussion continues – https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=062:35:06&ch=21 – "They have already filled 24 bunks.... It's not too hopeful."

But MIT have a couple of guys staying in Galveston and so the problem-solving continues...

"Well, one thing, Russell and Bales aren't going to sleep the entire day. You might could trade off with them."
"They don't sleep the whole mission, do they?"
"Well, I don't know."

One conclusion: "I think I'll bring in my bed roll and sleep behind the plot board." Discussion continues until 062:38:11: "Do you snore? I do!"

Interestingly, Steve Bales recalls that when he slept in the bunkroom the night before the landing, there weren't more than two other people there. (Source: From the Trench of Mission Control to the Craters of the Moon.) We know that one of them was Jay Greene, and that Jay and Steve also slept there the night after the landing, after watching the EVA in the flight controllers' lounge. (Source: Jay Greene's JSC oral history.)

We also know that Sy Liebergot had a bunk allocated to him, with a little sticker on it that said 'Rendezvous EECOM': https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=096:04:35&ch=17

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=069:41:37&ch=21

Yaw: AGC, Yaw
Someone: Go ahead
Yaw: Hey, is Jack there?
AGC (Jack Garman): Yeah
Yaw: Hey Jack, is the wild rumor that Jurgenson was talking about you and a TV party still true?
AGC: TV party?
Yaw: Yeah, Sunday?
AGC: Oh! I might - I have a color television. Anybody who wishes is welcome to come over and watch the EVA, yes, certainly. I didn't really mean to say that it was a party.
Yaw: Oh, that was sort of the impression that he had given.
AGC: Are you kidding, after being on the console, everybody, for twelve hours at a shot? And then you think we're going to be drinking and partying at that time? (pause) Heck, yes, you're right!
Yaw: That's what I thought. (pause) No, I thought everybody would be beat, but I still don't think anybody would be morose.

Speaking of partying, Jack Garman got married on August 1st 1969 – only a week after the Apollo 11 splashdown – after meeting his future wife during the Apollo 8 sims at the end of 1968. So he was pretty busy in 1969!

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=044:06:03&ch=20

What does it mean? Luckily for us, FIDO has it explained to him by the Assistant Flight Director (and a few others). They then go on to discuss at 7.7 earthquake that just happened in China.

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=044:01:05&ch=20

Jerry Bostick's (chief of the Flight Dynamics Branch, AKA the boss of the Trench) headset goes missing and the saga enlivens another dull sleep shift. It had a long cord and everything.

Discussion runs until 044:05:36 or so, at which point the participants are commenting: "it's good to start a flap over something simple... hey, we could probably carry this on for two or three hours."

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=015:01:11&ch=20

FIDO (Jay Greene): Hey, if you've memorized the flight plan, I'm all set to give you a spot quiz on what's happening this shift.
GUIDO (Will Fenner): Sleep
FIDO: You just flunked. It's sleep and PTC. You only knew half of what's going on, Fenner.
GUIDO: I have been watching the PTC here for an hour. It's going around and around.

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=122:18:04&ch=21

Really enjoyed this GUIDO-eye view of the attempt to locate the LM on the lunar surface by using a P22 to track the CSM with the LM's rendezvous radar. I've given a time tag that offers a little bit of the lead-up – it kicks into being a mad scramble about three minutes later, with Steve Bales nearly failing to give Buzz Aldrin permission to hit "proceed"; Aldrin requesting to do a Verb 83 and being told no; the AGS getting mis-initialized; and finally Jack Garman announcing at 122:25:11 that they can't lock on again because "that vehicle's GONE! We saw it go overhead."

It all sounds far more exciting from the ground than it does on the air-to-ground loop.

There is some good background information from the top of the relevant page on the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal: https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.launch.html

It quotes Buzz Aldrin from the Technical Debrief: "I don't think we had our AGS configured (properly) and the ground was not as helpful as they might have been had we run this sort of thing previously in simulations and had a bit more training on it."

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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / 168:29:19 FIDO sings show tunes
« on: May 24, 2020, 02:36:33 pm »
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=168:29:19&ch=20

FIDO Jay Greene gets a call from a young woman trying to arrange an interview for him with Henry S. F. Cooper of the New Yorker (author of several books on space exploration). He greets her with a chorus inspired by "Hello Young Lovers" from The King & I. Apparently his nickname was 'Broadway Jay.'

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=131:50:06&ch=20

Head of the Flight Dynamics Branch Jerry Bostick calls in to ask why they've jettisoned the LM a rev early. FIDO Jay Greene recounts the whole saga, which he found "so traumatic it's funny."

This was an example of some really messy last minute planning, not the Trench's finest hour. Having listened to the tapes, it doesn't surprise me that they (Jay Greene again) later wound up messing up the separation burn on Apollo 15 – to the extent that it was only the attention of the astronauts that kept them from burning towards the LM, rather than away from it as planned.

Having given you the retrospective of the incident, I'll now add some links in subsequent comments that show the drama playing out. Spoiler: no one actually said "fuck it, Flight." Sadly.

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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / 119:49:49 Lunney's ascent pep talk
« on: May 22, 2020, 03:54:57 pm »
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=119:49:49&ch=50

Glynn Lunney gives his version of a pep talk to his controllers at the start of the lunar ascent shift: "Okay, Black Team members, the time has come!"

This includes him telling GUIDO Steve Bales that "I'd like you to get all your people standing by and looking alive because by the time these guys wake up, we're going to be two and a half hours from liftoff, we don't have any time for any debates or anything else like that, OK?" And Bales then passes this pep talk on to AGC Support Jack Garman in his back room: "we're going now, this is serious." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=120:38:14&ch=21

Predictably Lunney gets testy an hour and a half later, when new requests are still coming to light: "I'm talking to anybody who'll listen... you should have mentioned it earlier." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=122:09:10&ch=21

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=057:42:05&ch=50

Another classic Lunney moment from that period of the highest of high drama, when the CSM's oxygen supply is finally failing and they urgently need to get the oxygen on in the LM.

He absolutely rides his poor TELMU: "Okay, how about ECS? Come on, I need some oxygen... Give me some oxygen right now... Do I need some oxygen?"

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https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=057:58:06&ch=50

Glynn Lunney gets testy about the idea of leaving the IMU heaters turned on.

This clip was featured in that classic 1994 documentary, Apollo 13: To the Edge and Back. "I can't afford that!" has been a bit of a catchphrase between me and my mother ever since.

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