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Very little of the thousands of hours of Mission Control audio on the website has been heard or documented. As you find moments of interest, post them here for discussion.

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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by MadDogBV on August 09, 2021, 12:51:13 pm »
Yeah, I see the timestamp as being the only thing that works too. The problem is I am working from a highly compressed version (which I created) of the EECOM loop that removes the silence so as to make it a seamless listening and transcribing experience. Timestamping means I would need to go back to the original file to figure out when the dialogue actually occurs.

Not that this is unreasonable, but it will take me more time. I do plan on doing this for both the EECOM, FLIGHT and FIDO loops though.
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by bfeist on August 09, 2021, 09:26:53 am »
I know it would be a ton more work (trust me) but the only way these could be used within the website is if each utterance is timestamped. If you create the transcript in this format, I could use it directly:

Code: [Select]
023:27:25|Kerwin|No problems.
023:28:07|Kerwin|And, 13, Houston. That's all the business I got right now. I have a little news plan of the day for you, if you feel like listening to that a little later on.
023:28:30|CDR|Just hold off there, Joe, until Fred's on his headset.
023:28:36|Kerwin|Stand by one, Jim. You're coming in garbled again.
023:29:58|CMP|Houston, 13.

I see that you also have what channel, or position they're in. For this you could add "position" so the format would be:
<when>|<position>|<who>|<what was said>
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by MadDogBV on August 08, 2021, 07:18:25 pm »
There's nothing I find more gratifying than a confirmation that someone reads my transcript work and wants to see more.  :D I will have an updated transcript soon.
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by bfeist on August 08, 2021, 12:10:54 pm »
Yes! We're working on Apollo 16 now. It probably not going to be ready for the 50th anniversary, but we'll try.
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by bfeist on August 08, 2021, 12:09:42 pm »
I don't know how I missed this thread! Thanks for offering to make EECOM transcripts. If you would like to discuss further how they could be integrated into the apolloinrealtime.org website, please let me know.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 051:30:21 EECOM Liebergot calls Dick Kohrs
« Last post by MadDogBV on August 06, 2021, 05:53:31 pm »
If you're not sure who Dick Kohrs is, check out the Richard H. Kohrs Oral History on the NASA website. He was the Chief of the System Engineering Division and also went on to be an integral part of the Space Shuttle program.

In this phone call, EECOM Sy Liebergot calls Kohrs partially to vent about his inability to get a General Electric contractor to pull some information about hot attitudes - despite promising to have them hand-carried to Sy before the mission - but primarily to have the Systems Engineering division run some data for him since GE "flubbed the dub".

Although you don't hear it on this loop, during the call, FLIGHT Kranz - who apparently was listening in on Sy's loop - hands over control to the AFD and heads over to SPAN to grumble at the CSM engineer, Bill Blair. Bill relays this to Sy later on.

Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=051:30:21&ch=16
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 057:08:54 "We're bringing 'em all in, man!"
« Last post by MadDogBV on August 03, 2021, 01:18:48 pm »
Before handing over to Black FIDO Bill Boone, White FIDO Bill Stoval chats with MIDCOURSE Bob Wiley about pre-perilune aborts to get the Apollo spacecraft home. Although both are fairly sure this is not as practical as a PC+2 DPS abort, they are running maneuvers anyway for comparison purposes.

At the end of the transmission, Bob relays that reinforcements are returning to the SSR to provide support for the trench.

Despite going off shift, Stoval does remain in the MOCR along with Bostick to help Boone and RETRO Weichel with the maneuver planning.

https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=057:10:04&ch=20
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During a rather quiet translunar coast, FIDO Bill Stoval is trying to figure out a way to burp (for the possible contingency of needing to relieve SHe pressure in the LM) the DPS engine in such a manner as to not significantly alter the current (immaculate) trajectory that the Apollo 13 spacecraft is currently on. In doing so, he's feeding DYNAMICS a lot of maneuvers that at this point seem to be bordering on trial-and-error.

MIDCOURSE Quenton Holmes picks up on what's going on and asks Stoval in a rather roundabout manner if they're just "soldiering on the job". Stoval firmly denies this.

https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=051:40:50&ch=20
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(Apologies for the necropost.)

Comm decorum is a BIG deal in the MOCR. During Apollo 13, I think Lunney, Griffin and Windler all grumbled at controllers for not having the air-to-ground loop punched up when the crew asked a question. I can totally believe a controller would be thrown out for making that same mistake twice.
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General Discussion / Some fun Apollo 13 audio projects
« Last post by MadDogBV on July 20, 2021, 10:16:07 am »
In my spare time I've been working on some audio projects using the Apollo 13 MOCR tapes (thanks to Archive.org and Ben Feist for making this possible). In the process, I've made a neat little audio -- I guess you could call it a clip but it's a little over 12 hours long.  :P

This is MOCR audio from the 047:44:12 to 064:30:27 GET. In this, I've isolated the EECOM audio into the left channel and the FIDO audio into the right channel, so you've got systems in one ear and dynamics in the other. Appropriately, I've named this file "Organized Chaos". You'll see why once you get to the time of the explosion.

In order to make this file listenable, I've run a noise and silence removal algorithm through GoldWave so that it removes most of the silence (except for the loud comm static when they bring the LM online) and provides for a seamless listening experience. This reduces the length of the audio file from 16 hours to 12 hours. There is a slight reverb effect whenever you have overlap in both channels (usually on the Flight Director loop) and the beginning of the audio file during Griffin's shift is a bit de-synchronized. But once you get into Kranz's shift, everything starts to sync up and it sounds a heck of a lot better.

Hope you enjoy this audio file as much as I enjoyed creating it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t22SSWM5i3QdjOa-tTOAgtg0-7iat0Ts/view?usp=sharing

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