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General Discussion / Ken Mattingly
« Last post by kendradog on November 04, 2023, 10:55:05 pm »I'm curious whether anyone have links to notable audio clips referencing or involving Ken Mattingly?
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 140:03:43 RETRO Chuck Deiterich gets spooked by YAW
« Last post by Naraht on November 02, 2023, 02:38:10 pm »No lie - I would waste so much time (re)listening to those. What a brilliant idea!
Probably you have tons of material already but you might consider starting some themed threads in the general forum, so that people could share clips that you might have missed.
My dream find: Steve Bales' colleagues in the Trench occasionally had to phone him to wake him up in time for the start of shift. Apparently these calls were quite funny so they sometimes played them back. The fact they were recorded makes me suspect that the calls came from Mission Control - maybe they went and did them from the Booster console? But it would be amazing to find a Bales wake-up call one day. Maybe from one of the other missions.
Best of Jack Garman would also be great. He was quite a character too.
Probably you have tons of material already but you might consider starting some themed threads in the general forum, so that people could share clips that you might have missed.
My dream find: Steve Bales' colleagues in the Trench occasionally had to phone him to wake him up in time for the start of shift. Apparently these calls were quite funny so they sometimes played them back. The fact they were recorded makes me suspect that the calls came from Mission Control - maybe they went and did them from the Booster console? But it would be amazing to find a Bales wake-up call one day. Maybe from one of the other missions.
Best of Jack Garman would also be great. He was quite a character too.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 140:03:43 RETRO Chuck Deiterich gets spooked by YAW
« Last post by MadDogBV on November 02, 2023, 12:57:47 pm »What I plan to do at some point, as I have time, is just a few compilation YouTube videos (or well, audios) of some of the Trench officers - Reed, Deiterich, Bales, possibly even Boone - just as a highlight reel of stuff they say on the loops. Each compilation video would probably be themed in some way. Perhaps Bales would be a mix of him being overly enthusiastic versus quiet and somnolent; Reed would be all the times he lost his temper, etc.. 
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 140:03:43 RETRO Chuck Deiterich gets spooked by YAW
« Last post by Naraht on November 02, 2023, 09:32:38 am »A somewhat related Deiterich moment: "don't scare me like that!"
But as he says afterwards, "it's better to overreact than to underreact... just keep it between us."
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=004:06:34&ch=19
But as he says afterwards, "it's better to overreact than to underreact... just keep it between us."
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=004:06:34&ch=19
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 004:03:35 RETRO Chuck Deiterich is floundering
« Last post by Naraht on November 02, 2023, 09:18:51 am »https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=004:03:35&ch=19
Chuck Deiterich takes a little while to remember why he called re-entry support.
"I've got too many things going on in my ear... Let me pull myself together. I'm floundering."
Chuck Deiterich takes a little while to remember why he called re-entry support.
"I've got too many things going on in my ear... Let me pull myself together. I'm floundering."
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 133:58:34 Reed: "If this damn PGNS gets in the way, I'm gonna raise hell!"
« Last post by Naraht on October 31, 2023, 04:34:07 pm »I've regarded him as probably one of the most senior FIDOs in the Trench, particularly after Bostick and Shaffer became leaders of the Flight Dynamics branch. Jay Greene was brilliant, of course, but Reed had all the confidence in the world - a must when dealing with other members of his cohort.No argument on "one of the most senior." You only have to look at the fact that Reed and Greene were the only two FIDOs ever to work a lunar descent. Their reputation must have been high indeed.
Of course there was a little bit of rivalry between Reed and Greene. As you may know already, Ed Pavelka assigned Greene to work descent on Apollo 11, and as he says: "Dave Reed was incensed. He could not stand it... I heard a lot of complaints over the years from Dave on that and I think it ended up frustrating him to the point where... he quit NASA." (Greene says the same thing in his own oral history; Reed denies it.)
It occurs to me that Reed might well have become a flight director if he hadn't left. Shaffer and Greene both did. (Bostick interestingly not.) The position of FIDO seems to have been a good launching pad, unsurprisingly.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 133:58:34 Reed: "If this damn PGNS gets in the way, I'm gonna raise hell!"
« Last post by MadDogBV on October 31, 2023, 10:38:03 am »Oh yes, I've listened to him in some of the prelaunch dialogue; he does have a little bit of a temper, yes.
Listen carefully in this one, when he speaks to Gary again (he slams the desk!): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=134:14:44&ch=20
I've regarded him as probably one of the most senior FIDOs in the Trench, particularly after Bostick and Shaffer became leaders of the Flight Dynamics branch. Jay Greene was brilliant, of course, but Reed had all the confidence in the world - a must when dealing with other members of his cohort.
Listen carefully in this one, when he speaks to Gary again (he slams the desk!): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=134:14:44&ch=20
I've regarded him as probably one of the most senior FIDOs in the Trench, particularly after Bostick and Shaffer became leaders of the Flight Dynamics branch. Jay Greene was brilliant, of course, but Reed had all the confidence in the world - a must when dealing with other members of his cohort.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 133:58:34 Reed: "If this damn PGNS gets in the way, I'm gonna raise hell!"
« Last post by Naraht on October 31, 2023, 02:32:49 am »To be fair, compare and contrast Dave Reed before the accident, having an argument with Booster because Marshall want to use his vector and he says agreed procedure is that they should calculate their own. (This is part of an argument that started much earlier.)
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=005:28:02&ch=20
He certainly sounds fresher but equally testy. I think he had a little bit of a temper.
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=005:28:02&ch=20
He certainly sounds fresher but equally testy. I think he had a little bit of a temper.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 133:58:34 Reed: "If this damn PGNS gets in the way, I'm gonna raise hell!"
« Last post by MadDogBV on October 30, 2023, 02:51:29 pm »A small addendum to this one: Compare and contrast FIDO Dave Reed at 134 hours with FIDO Dave Reed almost exactly 20 hours prior. He sounds more like a pilot on a commercial airliner flying to Honolulu. Everybody must have felt pretty confident about how the last day of the flight would play out, until of course the actual reality of the situation hit everyone in the face.
Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=114:57:57&ch=20
Everybody must have felt pretty confident about how the last day of the flight would play out, until of course the actual reality of the situation hit everyone in the face.Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=114:57:57&ch=20
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 133:58:34 Reed: "If this damn PGNS gets in the way, I'm gonna raise hell!"
« Last post by kendradog on October 16, 2023, 07:22:04 pm »You can really hear the exhaustion and frustration in their voices and language. In the movie, there some scenes that showed the astronauts getting testy over time, but in the movie the mission controllers are always pretty calm.
In reality though, constant work, little sleep, maybe sleeping on floors and not showering for a few days, takes its toll. CAPCOM Jack Lousma sounds as cool as always of course.
In reality though, constant work, little sleep, maybe sleeping on floors and not showering for a few days, takes its toll. CAPCOM Jack Lousma sounds as cool as always of course.