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General Discussion / Re: Apollo 12 launch EECOM loop?
« Last post by kendradog on May 28, 2025, 12:23:09 am »Has the status of this NSF grant been changed either due to the passage of time or to recent general NSF grant issues?
This forum is for discussion about content found on https://apolloinrealtime.org
Very little of the thousands of hours of Mission Control audio on the website has been heard or documented. As you find moments of interest, post them here for discussion.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 139:13:22 John Aaron proposes unthinkable power-saving solution
« Last post by kendradog on May 28, 2025, 12:20:28 am »Excellent find. There must have been conversations just like this for nearly every system, with John Aaron demanding power cuts to systems the specialists said could not be cut. By the way, the transcript has Flight Director Gene Kranz saying "Tell him if any other reconfiguration" at 139:14:41; that should be "TELMU, and other reconfiguration?" Gene always intercalates a shwa after the L in TELMU for some reason. Similarly, "Telling you?" at 139:15:40 should be "TELMU".
This is also a great clip for having both John Aaron and Sy Liebergot on there.
This is also a great clip for having both John Aaron and Sy Liebergot on there.
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by Naraht on May 24, 2025, 11:50:00 am »Apollo 16 is being digitized! This means that our project team could get access to the data this summer and begin creation of an Apollo 16 in Real Time.Excellent news! Really looking forward to it. Do you have any idea of the status of the other missions?
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by Kasper on May 21, 2025, 12:21:47 pm »Apollo 16 is being digitized! This means that our project team could get access to the data this summer and begin creation of an Apollo 16 in Real Time.
Well that is great news! Thanks.
What is a realistic guess on when we might get to see Apollo 16 in Real Time?
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by bfeist on May 15, 2025, 04:38:40 pm »Apollo 16 is being digitized! This means that our project team could get access to the data this summer and begin creation of an Apollo 16 in Real Time.
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by Kasper on May 13, 2025, 03:29:22 am »It's a hangup with the process, not the material. Every transfer is still pending.
What is the status for Apollo 16 as of May 2025?
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 125:59:03 Bales and Garman at crunch time
« Last post by MadDogBV on February 26, 2025, 08:25:31 am »Steve Bales, GUIDO; and Jack Garman, AGC Support - Probably one of the most infamous duos in the legacy of the MOCR.
They have worked with each other several times throughout the mission. Now it's crunch time, with less than 24 hours to go before entry interface, and Steve is busier than hell. At first, it seems he's about to brush Jack off from talking about a logistical problem related to uplinked command loads, on account of being too busy to talk. But Jack knows full well that Steve can't resist a brainteaser.
Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=125:59:03&ch=22
They have worked with each other several times throughout the mission. Now it's crunch time, with less than 24 hours to go before entry interface, and Steve is busier than hell. At first, it seems he's about to brush Jack off from talking about a logistical problem related to uplinked command loads, on account of being too busy to talk. But Jack knows full well that Steve can't resist a brainteaser.
Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=125:59:03&ch=22
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General Discussion / Re: Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by daniel on February 04, 2025, 01:59:58 pm »Holding out hope for apollo 8 and 12 MOCR audio, at some point.
Whilst we can't know what's going on behind the scenes, hopefully the project is still underway and going okay.
Who knows, maybe it will all be released at once?
Fingers crossed.
Whilst we can't know what's going on behind the scenes, hopefully the project is still underway and going okay.
Who knows, maybe it will all be released at once?
Fingers crossed.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 003:56:32 TLI dynamics error shows Apollo 13 hurtling back to earth
« Last post by MadDogBV on January 22, 2025, 08:54:39 am »The DYNAMICS team Ray Reynolds and Bob Torres had a rough mission.
The Apollo 13 Mission Operations Report notes the following incident in the Problems & Resolutions section of FIDO's report:
The re-anchoring of the ephemeris on the pre-TLI vector also had the side effect of impacting multiple displays used by the MOCR personnel, including the CLAD - the command module looking angle display - which was used by the INCO to configure the high-gain antenna and also identify which spacecraft omni provided the best comm. At ~3:56 after the dynamics error, the CLAD was now showing the spacecraft Apollo 13 hurtling back towards the earth, because all the ephemeris knew was that 13 was still in orbit.
COMM Ed Fendell has a field day with this, delighting in embarrassing the FIDO over it. In the FIDO loop, Dave Reed is noticeably annoyed at DYNAMICS. "Mark yourself down for one," he orders them. Whether this is part of a disciplinary action or to buy Dave a beer later is unclear.
Link (COMM&INCO): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=003:56:32&ch=53
Link (FIDO): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=003:57:26&ch=20
The Apollo 13 Mission Operations Report notes the following incident in the Problems & Resolutions section of FIDO's report:
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The SIVB LOX dump and evasive maneuvers were input to the RTCC at (approximately) 3:46:00. At this time, the Selects requested that the 2:59:00 zero ΔV maneuver (used for CSM separation attitude definition) be moved back to TLI cutoff. Dynamics was so instructed, however, TLI was moved instead. This resulted in the ephemeris re-anchoring on the pre-TLI CYI vector. This situation was ultimately corrected by deleting TLI and re-anchoring on CCHU08. (The consequence of this was to "turn on" the RTCC pre-TLI vent model. With this vent on, and unknown, later impact point evaluations with MSFC would not compare. It was not until 24 hrs later that the "vent on" situation was noted as having invalidated impact point comparisons attempted prior to a GET of approximately 6 hrs.)
The re-anchoring of the ephemeris on the pre-TLI vector also had the side effect of impacting multiple displays used by the MOCR personnel, including the CLAD - the command module looking angle display - which was used by the INCO to configure the high-gain antenna and also identify which spacecraft omni provided the best comm. At ~3:56 after the dynamics error, the CLAD was now showing the spacecraft Apollo 13 hurtling back towards the earth, because all the ephemeris knew was that 13 was still in orbit.
COMM Ed Fendell has a field day with this, delighting in embarrassing the FIDO over it. In the FIDO loop, Dave Reed is noticeably annoyed at DYNAMICS. "Mark yourself down for one," he orders them. Whether this is part of a disciplinary action or to buy Dave a beer later is unclear.
Link (COMM&INCO): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=003:56:32&ch=53
Link (FIDO): https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=003:57:26&ch=20
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / -02:01:30 Slayton doesn't want Mattingly to self-quarantine
« Last post by MadDogBV on January 21, 2025, 06:48:28 pm »Those who might have listened to the pre-launch loops may have heard at some point an isolated "CAPCOM, Stony, come up super-loop, Joe." The subsequent transmission was apparently to notify Kerwin that there is an incoming phone call from Slayton. This timestamp concerns that call.
Deke Slayton, Director of Flight Crew Operations, calls CAPCOM Joe Kerwin on the telephone during the launch countdown sequence. They chat briefly; his main druther is he wants someone to make it crystal-clear to Ken Mattingly that he shouldn't feel afraid (and by extension, no one around him should feel afraid) to have him in the MOCR pre-launch. This is an interesting deviation from the party line that was held during the pre-launch press conference where there seemed to be a unanimous agreement that Mattingly shouldn't fly due to measles exposure. Based on Slayton's language here, it seems that he's not at all convinced that there is any need for him to quarantine himself.
Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=-02:01:30&ch=15
Deke Slayton, Director of Flight Crew Operations, calls CAPCOM Joe Kerwin on the telephone during the launch countdown sequence. They chat briefly; his main druther is he wants someone to make it crystal-clear to Ken Mattingly that he shouldn't feel afraid (and by extension, no one around him should feel afraid) to have him in the MOCR pre-launch. This is an interesting deviation from the party line that was held during the pre-launch press conference where there seemed to be a unanimous agreement that Mattingly shouldn't fly due to measles exposure. Based on Slayton's language here, it seems that he's not at all convinced that there is any need for him to quarantine himself.
Link: https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=-02:01:30&ch=15