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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 139:00:13 TELMU "Shocking tie"
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 06:22:20 pm »Having had a listen, I can't make out the name, but I'm pretty sure the response is, "it's his life, never mind."
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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / 119:49:49 Lunney's ascent pep talk
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 03:54:57 pm »https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=119:49:49&ch=50
Glynn Lunney gives his version of a pep talk to his controllers at the start of the lunar ascent shift: "Okay, Black Team members, the time has come!"
This includes him telling GUIDO Steve Bales that "I'd like you to get all your people standing by and looking alive because by the time these guys wake up, we're going to be two and a half hours from liftoff, we don't have any time for any debates or anything else like that, OK?" And Bales then passes this pep talk on to AGC Support Jack Garman in his back room: "we're going now, this is serious." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=120:38:14&ch=21
Predictably Lunney gets testy an hour and a half later, when new requests are still coming to light: "I'm talking to anybody who'll listen... you should have mentioned it earlier." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=122:09:10&ch=21
Glynn Lunney gives his version of a pep talk to his controllers at the start of the lunar ascent shift: "Okay, Black Team members, the time has come!"
This includes him telling GUIDO Steve Bales that "I'd like you to get all your people standing by and looking alive because by the time these guys wake up, we're going to be two and a half hours from liftoff, we don't have any time for any debates or anything else like that, OK?" And Bales then passes this pep talk on to AGC Support Jack Garman in his back room: "we're going now, this is serious." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=120:38:14&ch=21
Predictably Lunney gets testy an hour and a half later, when new requests are still coming to light: "I'm talking to anybody who'll listen... you should have mentioned it earlier." https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=122:09:10&ch=21
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 057:42:05 Lunney: "Come on, I need some oxygen"
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 03:40:52 pm »https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=057:42:05&ch=50
Another classic Lunney moment from that period of the highest of high drama, when the CSM's oxygen supply is finally failing and they urgently need to get the oxygen on in the LM.
He absolutely rides his poor TELMU: "Okay, how about ECS? Come on, I need some oxygen... Give me some oxygen right now... Do I need some oxygen?"
Another classic Lunney moment from that period of the highest of high drama, when the CSM's oxygen supply is finally failing and they urgently need to get the oxygen on in the LM.
He absolutely rides his poor TELMU: "Okay, how about ECS? Come on, I need some oxygen... Give me some oxygen right now... Do I need some oxygen?"
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 057:58:06 Lunney: "That's 64 amp hours! I can't afford that!"
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 03:34:25 pm »https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=057:58:06&ch=50
Glynn Lunney gets testy about the idea of leaving the IMU heaters turned on.
This clip was featured in that classic 1994 documentary, Apollo 13: To the Edge and Back. "I can't afford that!" has been a bit of a catchphrase between me and my mother ever since.
Glynn Lunney gets testy about the idea of leaving the IMU heaters turned on.
This clip was featured in that classic 1994 documentary, Apollo 13: To the Edge and Back. "I can't afford that!" has been a bit of a catchphrase between me and my mother ever since.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 062:10:11 Lunney: "Somebody tell me what the point of that is."
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 03:29:43 pm »Classic.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 115:02:00 Lunney on the LM jettison plan "don't argue with me"
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 03:27:36 pm »I love it when Lunney gets testy with the flight controllers too - which is just about all the time, usually.
It's so true! Although I think it's not anger so much as impatience. As Jay Greene said years later, "Glynn would drive you crazy, because his mind would race so fast that he could churn out action items quicker than you could absorb, much less answer."
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He tends to be polite with the CAPCOM though, probably because they're astronauts and ultimately his voice link between the ground and the spacecraft.
The CAPCOM is presumably also less likely to argue with him or to keep him waiting for an answer! There were certainly times when he was no respecter of astronauts. I would love to hear the Flight Director's loop on Apollo 7, when Wally Schirra's insubordination (as he saw it) left him absolutely incandescent with rage.
I am going to go through my notes on these recordings and see if I can pull out some more Lunney moments to share with the class. In the mean time I can recommend one I've already posted, where he (jokingly) berates Jay Greene for taking a checkpoint at the wrong time and losing 40 minutes of data as a result: https://forum.apolloinrealtime.org/index.php?topic=225.0
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 062:10:11 Lunney: "Somebody tell me what the point of that is."
« Last post by MadDogBV on May 22, 2020, 01:57:12 pm »https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=062:09:45&ch=50
Lunney gets into it with his flight controllers. Shortly after the disaster and the mental strain of the course-correction burn, Lunney is trying to get the crew into some semblance of PTC. However, SPAN is trying to come up with a new PTC procedure, which is causing delays in the process at a time when management of power and consumables is a priority. FLIGHT becomes progressively annoyed by this.
(Unfortunately, the TELMU/CONTROL loop is drowned out by the noise of the comm, otherwise I'd post that also.)
Lunney gets into it with his flight controllers. Shortly after the disaster and the mental strain of the course-correction burn, Lunney is trying to get the crew into some semblance of PTC. However, SPAN is trying to come up with a new PTC procedure, which is causing delays in the process at a time when management of power and consumables is a priority. FLIGHT becomes progressively annoyed by this.
(Unfortunately, the TELMU/CONTROL loop is drowned out by the noise of the comm, otherwise I'd post that also.)
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 115:02:00 Lunney on the LM jettison plan "don't argue with me"
« Last post by MadDogBV on May 22, 2020, 12:22:41 pm »I love it when Lunney gets testy with the flight controllers too - which is just about all the time, usually. He tends to be polite with the CAPCOM though, probably because they're astronauts and ultimately his voice link between the ground and the spacecraft.
I particularly enjoyed a sequence of the flight director loop (one that wasn't in the original 8 hours posted to YouTube, but came immediately after the free-return course correction burn at ~62 hours), where he was trying to come up with a PTC procedure but SPAN was making him wait for a preferred procedure of their own.
"I'm not getting anybody to come out and agree with me, so I guess we're about to press on here with what we're gonna do... And I'm getting tired of waiting... -forced laughter-"
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=062:09:04&ch=50
I particularly enjoyed a sequence of the flight director loop (one that wasn't in the original 8 hours posted to YouTube, but came immediately after the free-return course correction burn at ~62 hours), where he was trying to come up with a PTC procedure but SPAN was making him wait for a preferred procedure of their own.
"I'm not getting anybody to come out and agree with me, so I guess we're about to press on here with what we're gonna do... And I'm getting tired of waiting... -forced laughter-"
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=062:09:04&ch=50
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 115:02:00 Lunney on the LM jettison plan "don't argue with me"
« Last post by Naraht on May 22, 2020, 02:15:22 am »Man, he's the flight director - that's all the rank he needs to pull.
Though he was also clearly the Trench's flight director. During the Mercury years, he was only the second Flight Dynamics Officer ever. For a good part of the 60s he was also Chief of the Flight Dynamics Branch, so the direct boss or boss's boss of these guys. He knew his stuff and they knew he knew it too.
I love Glynn Lunney getting testy. This is a great find.
Though he was also clearly the Trench's flight director. During the Mercury years, he was only the second Flight Dynamics Officer ever. For a good part of the 60s he was also Chief of the Flight Dynamics Branch, so the direct boss or boss's boss of these guys. He knew his stuff and they knew he knew it too.
I love Glynn Lunney getting testy. This is a great find.
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / Re: 115:02:00 Lunney on the LM jettison plan "don't argue with me"
« Last post by MadDogBV on May 21, 2020, 09:13:34 pm »Best part about that is when he effectively pulls rank and says he was there "when we did it on Apollo 10".