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Very little of the thousands of hours of Mission Control audio on the website has been heard or documented. As you find moments of interest, post them here for discussion.

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Never a dull moment, you've got to give him that! Half the time I get the feeling that he was just trying to keep himself from getting bored.

If I'd been Greene's middle school teacher, I'm sure I would have considered him a smart aleck, but as it is I think he's great.
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Oh yeah, I heard this when I was doing audio editing to trim the noise and silences off the MOCR loops. Jay Greene gets damn feisty on the FIDO/MOCR DYN loops. I imagine when the Race To The Moon book described the members of the trench as "well nigh insufferable", Jay weighed heavily on their minds.  ;D
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General Discussion / Other Apollo Missions
« Last post by chubble on May 24, 2021, 01:34:09 am »
I tried looking around briefly if this question had already been asked and answered but didn't see anything.

Is there a chance other Apollo missions will be added to this site?

I'd love to hear the Apollo 8 mission since it is the first trip to the moon. Apollo 12 would be awesome too with the lightning strike after take off and hearing John Aaron in action earning his "steely eyed missile man" name. And I'm sure all the missions have amazing parts of them that I'm not aware of.
Thanks for this amazing site!
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Apollo 13 Moments of Interest / 048:44:15 Greene: "what's this 'hey babe' stuff?"
« Last post by Naraht on May 23, 2021, 12:39:04 pm »
https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=048:44:15&ch=20

Jay Greene: What do you want?
Unknown caller: Hey babe, have you updated since 45+38?
Greene: What's this 'hey babe' stuff?
Caller: I learned it from you!
Greene: Listen babe, we're in the control center, this conversation is being recorded, you call me "FIDO, sir"
Caller: Control center conversation mode: FIDO, sir.
Greene: Go.

And after a conversation they close with...
Greene: We'll see you, babe.
Caller: Appreciate it, FIDO, sir.
Greene: Ciao, ciao.
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by Naraht on May 23, 2021, 08:27:53 am »
Sorry for the delay in replying but this is great! I'll look forward to seeing more.

As regards the equation issue, I would suggest maybe just writing it out as they speak it on the loop. That way it wouldn't keep you from being able to use Google docs.

Your list of names looks right to me, although if I remember I'll double check in the Lovell and Kluger book, which probably has the most detailed identification. The FIDO is definitely Bill Stoval.

One note, though - Liebergot is spelled with one T, not two.
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by MadDogBV on May 11, 2021, 10:20:56 am »
Based on the transcripts, this is who I assume is working on Liebergot's shift (question marks where I'm not sure of exact names):

FLIGHT: Gene Kranz
FIDO: Bill Stoval
GUIDO: Will Fenner
RETRO: Bobby Spencer
EECOM: Sy Liebergot (of course) edited 5/23/2021 per Naraht
GNC: Briggs "Buck" Willoughby
TELMU: Bob Heselmeyer
CONTROL: Larry Strimple
RECOVERY: Ed Bullock
INCO: Alan Glines, Gary Scott
PROCEDURES: Earl Thompson, Jim Fucci
SURGEON: Dr. Jack Ziegleschmidt
FAO: Turnage Lindsey, Spence Gardner

SPAN: Mel Brooks, Arnie Aldrich, Bill Blair?
EPS: Dick Brown, Jim Kelly
ECS: George Conway, George Bliss, Larry Sheaks
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by MadDogBV on May 09, 2021, 08:33:25 am »
Well, here's what I've done so far. I've created a condensed audio clip of Sy Liebergott's shift on the White team from 049:20 to 057:06 GET. This includes a rudimentary noise removal and silence removal algorithm to get rid of the background tape noise, save for long bursts of static/background talk which will require some manual edits by me to talk. This essentially shortens what would be a normally 8-hour audio file to a relatively seamless 4-hour clip.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jq0_25sDIRxR9-Fsx53Ef_fA7DR057Ot/view?usp=sharing

In addition to that, I've also included a partial transcript which I plan to add more to in the future. This is in ".docx" format primarily because it includes an equation given by one of the EPS teams, and there's no way to write out the equation in any of the older Word formats. Maybe I ought to convert it to an image.  :)

I'll update this as I go along and, once I can figure out how to deal with the equation issue, probably keep a running transcript up on Google Docs.

Happy listening (and reading).
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https://apolloinrealtime.org/13/?t=090:32:10&ch=19

A long telephone discussion between Chuck Deiterich and his fellow Retro John Llewellyn, in which they discuss all the key planning meetings that are happening, and who needs to go to what.

Deiterich says that Jay Greene is going to the Data Priority Meeting but he's happy once Llewellyn offers to go too. "I don't think it would hurt anything... I could imagine a Johnny Mayer type [head of MPAD] bringing in data like he did yesterday... I got really bent out of shape with Greene... I says you weren't around yesterday before that burn, everybody with their plans..."
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General Discussion / Re: I can put together a transcript for EECOM loops
« Last post by Naraht on May 04, 2021, 02:43:37 pm »
Once again, what a great idea. It's very generous of you to offer to do, and share, these.

I'd be happy to help with identifying controllers and double-checking the jargon where possible.

For Apollo 13, there's a lot of good action on the Retro loop from 137 hours onwards until splashdown at 143 or so. Retro leading the flight dynamics work at that point, obviously, because they were responsible for re-entry. That would be my first recommendation for Apollo 13.

Earlier on, the serious discussion of burn options on the FIDO loop seems to start around 063 hours and presumably runs up until the PC+2 burn at 079:30 or so (though I haven't listened that far yet).

But I guess if I were going to start anywhere with the FIDO loop I would start with Apollo 11. The descent is, of course, gripping, as is the immediate aftermath when FIDO is still trying to work out where they landed. Maybe from 101 to 105 hours?

Also of interest on Apollo 11 is the preparation for the TEI burn, because there was all sorts of hassle and miscommunication and rescheduling, with FIDO (Greene) and RETRO (Deiterich) as a wonderfully bickering double act. That runs roughly from 128 to 131 hours, although the post-burn analysis and bickering continues through to 135 hours.

Hope that's useful! I have pretty detailed logs of the sections I've listened through, but only in the sense I've noted down what I found amusing or interesting... not encyclopedic at all, just an aide memoire.
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