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Very little of the thousands of hours of Mission Control audio on the website has been heard or documented. As you find moments of interest, post them here for discussion.

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Outstanding effort here, to whoever's done this.  I've had so much fun with it the past few days.

I have a query about the dashboard.
After the TEI burn, the velocity stats are markedly different from what the PA is reporting.
Also the craft seems to still be accelerating after the burn has finished.
Sorry, should have mentioned this is the Apollo 11 stream.

Is the velocity on the dashboard just an illustration, or is there a parameter missing?

Thanks.
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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / Re: CONTROL and the bet on Eagle's lifespan
« Last post by bfeist on July 24, 2023, 08:04:08 am »
What interesting research! I wonder if any papers were published at the time about this result. Thank you very much for contributing this to the forum.
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This was an interesting exchange between I think INCO or maybe PROCEDURES and someone trying to get DLOGs I think.

The back room controller was trying to persuade some support person to do something with the network, maybe something complex involving getting a DLOG although I'm not sure. The back-end person was complaining that what was asked for would be a lot of work. The controller said something like "we've got a good problem here" and "we need the best data we can". The controller had a distinctive drawl. It was interesting because the exchange illustrated how, like humans throughout history, most workers were mostly interested in minimizing their own work. The obscure back-end person was probably accustomed to requests to do with simulations and tests and reflexively didn't want to do extra work. The back room controller was in a very understated way justifying his request.

Sadly, I forgot the time this occurred. Probably within 2 hours of the accident if not sooner.
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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / CONTROL and the bet on Eagle's lifespan
« Last post by beelewis on July 23, 2023, 06:26:56 pm »
After hearing about the test of how long the PGNS would last without cooling, I wanted to know the results, so I listened to the CONTROL loop. The highlights, since in real time this happens over 2+ hours:

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=135:28:33&ch=57 - PROP (pardon me barely knowing any names and not being good with voices) asks when Carlton thinks they'll acquire Eagle. The reply is that he's betting they won't-- he's literally bet some coffee on it. This leads to everyone discussing where they stand on that bet. Bob, who's watching the batteries, is confident they'll get at least another two revs. The response to that is "I hope we get data this lap, just so you can see how fast that battery voltage drops. You gonna look over there and see ol' Bob's mouth hanging down about halfway to his chest."

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=135:44:06&ch=57 They do get AOS (and Flight pretends he forgot they had a LM) leading to: "Carlton's passing out the coffee." "I only had one guy with me on this pass."

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=136:46:43&ch=57 There's a question of whether "Merlin" (I think?) is going to leave. "No." "What, you gonna stay here 'til it quits?"

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=136:50:19&ch=57 There's a discussion about extending the coffee bet for another rev (no one will take the long odds), and with cinematic timing, immediately after that comes, "We may have overheated that rascal... You ain't gonna see it no more, fellas. Kiss her goodbye. That's it on the PGNS." It went 7 hours 13 minutes. Flight's thoughts when informed are: "How 'bout that? Handy that that happened before the LOS here."

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=136:56:54&ch=57 PROP has decided to take Mr. Carlton up on his bet whether they'll have data next lap or not.

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=137:00:38&ch=57 Someone has a conversation with presumably his wife, who after updating him on her luck at poker and saying she saw him on TV and he was "loafing" (he replies he was not) wants to know when he'll be home. He explains that he might be leaving in 40 minutes or he might not, "we're sitting here 'til it dies and it should die by the time we have acquisition, but we might have enough to get another 30-40 minutes after we get acquisition, or we might not."

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=137:48:05&ch=57 AOS takes a minute because (as far as I can understand) Honeysuckle was having some trouble with the CSM so they were slow relaying the LM signal. When it comes in, it elicits a very dismayed "Oh no, it's still there!" It quickly turns out that Eagle helpfully hung on JUST long enough, so they can record the voltage when the AGS fails. "Ol' Bob really skimmed in on the neck of his nap on that!" "That wasn't skimming. I predicted it, fellas!"

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=137:54:35&ch=57 I was happy to see that like Aquarius, Eagle got a farewell salute: "Goodbye, LM-5, you've been a good vehicle."

BONUS
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/?t=133:05:14&ch=57 someone is very pleased at getting to send a DSKY command from the Guidance console. The response is, "Oh, you didn't invite us out to send one?"
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Apollo 11 Moments of Interest / Mission Controllers Joking about Flat Earthers
« Last post by MsidC123 on July 19, 2023, 08:16:08 am »
In the SPACE ENV loop at 70:36:50 has some of the controllers joking about Flat Earthers.
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General Discussion / Apollo 11 Distance from Earth Mistake
« Last post by MsidC123 on July 18, 2023, 12:43:09 pm »
Currently watching Apollo 11 in real-time and the Distance from Earth counter in Apollo 11 just after 50 hours starts counting down, then starts counting up around a half an hour later, reaching the correct distance mentioned by the PAO. This is just a mistake on the website, right?
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General Discussion / Apollo 2TV-1 "mission" transcript?
« Last post by Day Quinn on July 15, 2023, 08:27:32 pm »
Does anyone know if a radio transcript exists for the apollo 2TV-1 test?
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General Discussion / Re: ASTP considered an Apollo mission?
« Last post by Day Quinn on July 13, 2023, 05:46:57 pm »
Thanks for your reply!

Yes, I think I agree with you. Apollo was a lunar program, anything else was just bonus
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General Discussion / Re: ASTP considered an Apollo mission?
« Last post by MadDogBV on July 13, 2023, 10:22:33 am »
From its conceptual beginnings in the mind of Abe Silverstein to Apollo 17's final splashdown, the Apollo mission and its mission schedule was nominally to do one thing and one thing only: put men on the Moon and bring them home before 1970. All of the missions prior to Apollo 11 were subordinated to a plan involving numerous milestones required to accomplish that objective. Each mission (even as the schedule was reconfigured for Apollo 8's unplanned lunar journey) was meant to be a new piece in the puzzle - a working Saturn V, a working CSM, a working LM, a lunar orbit, a rendezvous between the CM and LM, and a demonstration of a nominal landing. The missions that came after 11 were then to take advantage of the scientific opportunities that the landings could yield, and they anticipated a much longer and detailed schedule before the program was cut.

For this reason, I think even those flights that used Apollo hardware couldn't be considered true Apollo missions, as Apollo was an operation with distinct objectives where the goal of the mission was just as much a part of the paradigm as the hardware itself.
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General Discussion / ASTP considered an Apollo mission?
« Last post by Day Quinn on July 13, 2023, 09:50:36 am »
When people think of the Apollo missions, the three skylab flights are usually not included despite using Apollo hardware. Even their mission names were not Apollo; they were Skylab 1-3.

But what about the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project?
Do you view this as an Apollo mission (the USA portion), or something different?
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